The "Day of the Lord" is a day of Judgment, a day of "visitation."
In the pages of the New Testament, the phrase "day of the Lord" immediately and primarily refers to the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70.
Here are some other equivalent phrases for this event, which was imminent ("any moment") in their day:
1. "The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand." (Matt. 3:2)
2. "Who warned you to flee from the wrath about to come?" (Matt. 3:7)
3. "The axe is already laid at the root of the trees." (Matt. 3:10)
4. "His winnowing fork is in His hand." (Matt. 3:12)
5. "The kingdom of heaven is at hand." (Matt. 4:17)
6. "The kingdom of heaven is at hand." (Matt. 10:7)
7. "You shall not finish going through the cities of Israel, until the Son of Man comes." (Matt. 10:23)
8. "....the age about to come." (Matt. 12:32)
9. "The Son of Man is about to come in the glory of His Father with His angels; and will then recompense every man according to his deeds." (Matt. 16:27)
10. "There are some of those who are standing here who shall not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom." (Matt. 16:28; cf. Mk. 9:1; Lk. 9:27)
11. "'When the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vine-growers?' '....He will bring those wretches to a wretched end, and will rent out the vineyard to other vine-growers, who will pay him the proceeds at the proper seasons.' '....Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you, and be given to a nation producing the fruit of it.' ....When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard His parables, they understood that He was speaking about them." (Matt. 21:40-41,43,45)
12. "This generation will not pass away until all these things take place." (Matt. 24:34)
13. "From now on, you [Caiaphas, the chief priests, the scribes, the elders, the whole Sanhedrin] shall be seeing the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven." (Matt. 26:64; Mk. 14:62; Lk. 22:69)
14. "The kingdom of God is at hand." (Mk. 1:15)
15. "What will the owner of the vineyard do? He will come and destroy the vine-growers, and will give the vineyard to others. ....They [the chief priests, scribes and elders] understood that He spoke the parable against them." (Mk. 12:9,12)
16. "This generation will not pass away until all these things take place." (Mk. 13:30)
17. "Who warned you to flee from the wrath about to come?" (Lk. 3:7)
18. "The axe is already laid at the root of the trees. " (Lk. 3:9)
19. "His winnowing fork is in His hand." (Lk. 3:17)
20. "The kingdom of God has come near to you." (Lk. 10:9)
21. "The kingdom of God has come near." (Lk. 10:11)
22. "What, therefore, will the owner of the vineyard do to them? He will come and destroy these vine-growers and will give the vineyard to others." The scribes and the chief priests understood that He spoke this parable against them." (Lk. 20:15-16,19)
23. "These are days of vengeance, in order that all things which are written may be fulfilled." (Lk. 21:22)
24. "This generation will not pass away until all things take place." (Lk. 21:32)
25. "Daughters of Jerusalem, stop weeping for Me, but weep for yourselves and for your children. For behold, the days are coming when they will say, 'Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bore, and the breasts that never nursed.' Then they will begin to say to the mountains, 'Fall on us,' and to the hills, 'Cover us.'" (Lk. 23:28-30; Compare Rev. 6:14-17)
26. "We were hoping that He was the One who is about to redeem Israel." (Lk. 24:21)
27. "I will come to you. In that Day you shall know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you.' 'Lord, what then has happened that You are about to disclose Yourself to us, and not to the world?'" (Jn. 14:18,20,22)
28. "If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you?" (Jn. 21:22)
29. "This is what was spoken of through the prophet Joel: 'And it shall be in the last days'" (Acts 2:16-17)
30. "He has fixed a day in which He is about to judge the world in righteousness" (Acts 17:31)
31. "There is about to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked." (Acts 24:15)
32. "As he was discussing righteousness, self-control and the judgment about to come" (Acts 24:25)
33. "Not for [Abraham's] sake only was it written, that [faith] was reckoned to him [as righteousness], but for our sake also, to whom it is about to be reckoned." (Rom. 4:23-24)
34. "If you are living according to the flesh, you are about to die." (Rom. 8:13)
35. "I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is about to be revealed to us." (Rom. 8:18)
36. "It is already the hour for you to awaken from sleep; for now salvation is nearer to us than when we believed. The night is almost gone, and the day is at hand." (Rom. 13:11-12)
37. "The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet." (Rom. 16:20)
38. "The time has been shortened." (I Cor. 7:29)
39. "The form of this world is passing away." (I Cor. 7:31)
40. "Now these things were written for our instruction, upon whom the ends of the ages have come." (I Cor. 10:11)
41. "We shall not all fall sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed." (I Cor. 15:51-52)
42. "Maranatha!" [The Lord comes!] (I Cor. 16:22)
43. "...not only in this age, but also in the one about to come." (Eph. 1:21)
44. "The Lord is near." (Phil. 4:5)
45. "The gospel was proclaimed in all creation under heaven." (Col. 1:23; Compare Matt. 24:14; Rom. 10:18; 16:26; Col. 1:5-6; II Tim. 4:17; Rev. 14:6-7; cf. I Clement 5,7)
46. "things which are a shadow of what is about to come." (Col. 2:16-17)
47. "we who are alive, and remain until the coming of the Lord We who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds You, brethren, are not in darkness, that the Day should overtake you like a thief." (I Thess. 4:15,17; 5:4)
48. "May your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ." (I Thess. 5:23)
49. "It is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire." (II Thess. 1:6-7)
50. "Godliness holds promise for the present life and that which is about to come." (I Tim. 4:8)
51. "I charge you that you keep the commandment without stain or reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ." (I Tim. 6:14)
52. "storing up for themselves the treasure of a good foundation for that which is about to come, so that they may take hold of that which is life indeed." (I Tim. 6:19)
53. "In the last days difficult times will come. For men will be lovers of self Avoid these men. For of these are those who enter into households and captivate weak women These also oppose the truth But they will not make further progress; for their folly will be obvious to all" (II Tim. 3:1-2,5-6,8-9)
54. "I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is about to judge the living and the dead" (II Tim. 4:1)
55. "God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, in these last days has spoken to us in His Son." (Heb. 1:1-2)
56. "Are they not all ministering spirits, sent out to render service for the sake of those who are about to inherit salvation" (Heb. 1:14)
57. "He did not subject to angels the world about to come." (Heb. 2:5)
58. "and have tasted the powers of the age about to come." (Heb. 6:5)
59. "For ground that drinks the rain which often falls upon it and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is also tilled, receives a blessing from God; but if it yields thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near a curse, and it's end is for burning." (Heb. 6:7-8)
60. "When He said, 'A new covenant,' He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear." (Heb. 8:13)
61. "The Holy Spirit is signifying this, that the way of the [heavenly] Holy Places has not yet been revealed, while the outer tabernacle is still standing, which is a symbol for the present time. Accordingly both gifts and sacrifices are offered which cannot make the worshiper perfect in conscience, since they relate only to food and drink and various washings, regulations for the body imposed until a time of reformation." (Heb. 9:8-10; Compare Gal. 4:19; Eph. 2:21-22; 3:17; 4:13)
62. "But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things about to come" (Heb. 9:11)
63. "Now once at the consummation of the ages He has been manifested to put away sin." (Heb. 9:26)
64. "For the Law, since it has only a shadow of the good things about to come" (Heb. 10:1)
65. "as you see the Day drawing near." (Heb. 10:25)
66. "the fury of a fire which is about to consume the adversaries." (Heb. 10:27)
67. "For yet in a very little while, He who is coming will come, and will not delay." (Heb. 10:37)
68. "For here we do not have a lasting city, but we are seeking the one that is about to come." (Heb. 13:14)
69. "Speak and so act, as those who are about to be judged by the law of liberty." (James 2:12)
70. "Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries which are coming upon you. It is in the last days that you have stored up your treasure!" (James. 5:1,3)
71. "Be patient, therefore, brethren, until the coming of the Lord." (James 5:7)
72. "You too be patient; strengthen your hearts, for the coming of the Lord is at hand." (James 5:8)
73. "salvation ready to be revealed in the last time." (I Peter 1:6)
74. "He has appeared in these last times for the sake of you." (I Peter 1:20)
75. "They shall give account to Him who is ready to judge the living and the dead." (I Peter 4:5)
76. "The end of all things is at hand; therefore, be of sound judgment and sober spirit for the purpose of prayer." (I Peter 4:7)
77. "For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God." (I Peter 4:17)
78. "as your fellow elder and witness of the sufferings of Christ, and a partaker also of the glory that is about to be revealed." (I Peter 5:1)
79. "We have the prophetic word which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the Day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts." (II Peter 1:19)
80. "Their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep." (II Peter 2:3)
81. "In the last days mockers will come. For this they willingly are ignorant of" (II Peter 3:3,5)
82. "But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God." (II Peter 3:10-12)
83. "The darkness is passing away, and the true light is already shining." (I Jn. 2:8)
84. "The world is passing away, and its desires." (I Jn. 2:17)
85. "It is the last hour." (I Jn. 2:18)
86. "Even now many antichrists have arisen; from this we know that it is the last hour." (I Jn. 2:18; Compare Matt. 24:23-34)
87. "This is that of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world." (I Jn. 4:3; Compare II Thess. 2:7)
88. "For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation. About these also Enoch prophesied, saying, 'Behold, the Lord came with many thousands of His holy ones, to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly'" (Jude 1:4,14-15)
89. "But you, beloved, ought to remember the words that were spoken beforehand by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ, that they were saying to you, 'In the last time there shall be mockers, following after their own ungodly lusts.' These are the ones who cause divisions" (Jude 1:17-19)
90. "to show to His bond-servants, the things which must shortly take place." (Rev. 1:1)
91. "The time is near." (Rev. 1:3)
92. "Nevertheless what you have, hold fast until I come." (Rev. 2:25)
93. "I also will keep you from the hour of testing which is about to come upon the whole world." (Rev. 3:10)
94. "I am coming quickly." (Rev. 3:11)
95. "And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is about to rule all the nations with a rod of iron." (Rev. 12:5)
96. "And in her [the Great City Babylon] was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth." (Rev. 18:24; Compare Matt. 23:35-36; Lk. 11:50-51)
97. "to show to His bond-servants the things which must shortly take place." (Rev. 22:6)
98. "Behold, I am coming quickly. " (Rev. 22:7)
99. "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near." (Rev. 22:10; Compare Dan. 8:26)
100. "Behold, I am coming quickly." (Rev. 22:12)
101. "Yes, I am coming quickly." (Rev. 22:20)
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From what version of the Bible are these verses quoted?
ReplyDeleteAmazing collection. Do you ever post anything on that Preterist Archive site?
These verses were originally collected by someone named David Green, and were originally published on the Preterist Archive website. The owner of the Preterist Archive has now repudiated preterism and has removed Mr. Green's verses. View old page. View current page. No, wait a minute, I found it. The new page is here. It now has a warning. Fascinating that a collection of Bible verses would have a warning.
ReplyDeleteThe translation used for each of those verses is whichever one translates the Greek word mello as "about to."
ReplyDeleteThank you for directing our attention the applicable part of the Preterist Archive site. It's rather discouraging that none of these people are able to maintain these positions that certainly seem to square with the Scriptures but go against the current institutionalist positions of Church and State.....I guess that is just a less cogent way of stating your comment that a collection of Bible verses would have (need) a warning????? Do peers and prestige dictate the truth?
ReplyDeleteHow are you defining "preterism", because the owner of the Preterist Archive site is an "Idealist Preterist."
ReplyDeleteI define "preterist" as "not a partial preterist."
ReplyDeleteInternational Preterist Association - What is preterism?
I leave a definition of "idealist preterist" to the advocates thereof. Your mention is the first I've heard of it.
Preterist Idealism @ PreteristArchive.com, The Internet's Only Balanced Look at Preterism
"Only balanced look" ?? I'm already skeptical. And the more I read, the more red flags I see. One source on that page says that when Paul saw Christ on the road to Damascas, that was a "coming" of Christ, so therefore AD 70 (I don't even know what the "therefore" is; it's not stated clearly). (I don't like theological positions which cannot (or will not) be stated clearly.)
What does an "idealist preterist" believe that a "full preterist" cannot believe?
I suspect that there are things the "full preterist" believes that an "idealist preterist" will not believe, so why does the idealist cling to the label "preterist?"
I can't speak for IP's because I don't buy it. My point is that there are some who would, like Gary DeMar, use it differently and who would include your interpretation. Gary holds the term generally and includes HP, IP, FP and PP's in the mix. So I guess you could use Preterism in a broad sense like DeMar or you could just speak of you're own interpretation as the "only balanced" position.
ReplyDeleteYou seem to be doing the same thing the IP site does in claiming you're position as the "real" one. Fine... I know you're convinced you've got this one down... just use a distinction for the sake of the audience.
From my confused perspective there seems to be a bunch of guys calling themselves preterist and claiming their own interpretation to be more true than the others. Dispi's do the same thing.
So I think if you want to be "clear" as you say, you should call yourself by the tribal preterist name you like (Full-Preterist, Hyper Preterist, "radical"-preterist), so people like me can know what type of preterism you're talking about. You wouldn't want me to confuse you with R.C. Sproul would you? jk.
You know I know what type you are... I just find it interesting that you just blow all the other interpretations off as if their nothing... maybe they are...
Gary DeMar has described himself as "partial preterist." I think this is accurate and communicative.
ReplyDeleteWhen partial-preterists describe themselves as "preterist," they will then describe consistent preterists as "hyper-preterists" or "full preterists" -- or even (half-graciously) "consistent preterists."
Partial preterists are willing to use the phrase "partial preterist" to describe themselves, and that logically means that the term "preterist" should belong to those who are fully preterist, not just partially preterist.
This seems honest and obvious to me.
Define Preterist at Dictionary.com This definition goes back a few centuries.
To describe someone as "idealist preterist" doesn't tell me if they are "partial preterist" or full preterist, which is where the real debate is. "Idealist" just seems to muddy the waters.
Nik: You seem to be doing the same thing the IP site does in claiming you're position as the "real" one. Fine... I know you're convinced you've got this one down... just use a distinction for the sake of the audience.
I don't know what distinction you want me to use. I distinguish between "preterists" and "partial preterists." I have never used the term "idealist preterist" because I don't even know what that means or to whom it refers.
Gary DeMar complains about those who put him in the "hyper-preterist" camp. He says that's like the Arminian who lumps Calvinists and Hyper-Calvinists together.
The difference is, no Calvinist would ever admit to being a "partial Calvinist," while DeMar admits to being a "partial preterist."
DeMar calls himself a "preterist" when he's contrasting his position with dispensationalists, and a "partial preterist" when he contrasts his position with full preterists.
If I use the term "preterist" and people think I'm in Gary DeMar's camp, I don't care. Gary DeMar cares. He wants to make sure people realize he's ONLY a partial preterist. He should use that term.
I think YOU should use the word FULL, CONSISTENT or HYPER, the neo-platonic crowd can use the word IDEALIST and Gary can use the word PARTIAL. I'm the referee!!(jk) LOL
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